Quoting%20commentary for Chullin 185:9

אנא לאו טבחא אנא ולאו בר טבחא אנא ונהירנא דהכי הוו אמרי בי מדרשא

Even as R'Johanan said: 'I am no butcher nor the son of a butcher, but I remember this statement that was generally quoted in the Beth-Hamidrash, "An animal whilst alive has its limbs dislocated"'.

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